agreed.
most people dont realize the current global situation and we need for those people to realize whats really going on with the Earth and how we can change and work together peacefully.

there is no doubt to me that there is a seriously climatic change going on on this earth.  there is data to prove it.  i am in college right now and i am studying biology, and at the present time our focus in my course was ecology, climate, and such, and there are so many hard facts out there that prove that humans are having an impact on the earth.  humans need to seriously consider what they are doing and the potential they have to destroy all that we know of the earth.  we are changing the face of the earth as we know it, and let’s face it, humans do not have the ability to adapt as quickly as some other animals, so by changing the climate of the earth, changing the face of the earth, we are potentially writing our own death sentences.  is this something we want to do as the largest thriving species on the earth?  NO!  and its not only the carbon emissions that are killing our earth one day at a time, it is humans destroying the natural habitat of animals.  humans need to find cleaner, less destructive means of energy, and fast.  i cannot stand the thought of any more animals going extinct because of habitat loss due to human intervention.  the only human intervention that should be done is to stop the crazy mess that is going on!

peace.love.jackjohnson.

chelz...I seriously hope, but doubt, your college professors or TA’s are giving you the same “hard facts” on the other side of the hypothesis that is climate change.  Please read this article that came out yesterday, and note the use of the word NATURAL! http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aU.evtnk6DPo&refer=home

Ocean Cooling to Briefly Halt Global Warming, Researchers Say

By Jim Efstathiou Jr.

April 30 (Bloomberg)—Parts of North America and Europe may cool naturally over the next decade, as shifting ocean currents temporarily blunt the global-warming effect caused by mankind, Germany’s Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences said.

Average temperatures in areas such as California and France may drop over the next 10 years, influenced by colder flows in the North Atlantic, said a report today by the institution based in Kiel, Germany. Temperatures worldwide may stabilize in the period.

The study was based on sea-surface temperatures of currents that move heat around the world, and vary from decade to decade. This regional cooling effect may temporarily neutralize the long- term warming phenomenon caused by heat-trapping greenhouse gases building up around the earth, said Richard Wood, a research scientist at the Met Office Hadley Centre, a U.K. provider of environmental and weather-related services.

``Those natural climate variations could be stronger than the global-warming trend over the next 10-year period,’’ Wood said in an interview. ``Without knowing that, you might erroneously think there’s no global warming going on.’’

The Leibniz study, co-written by Noel Keenlyside, a research scientist at the institute, will be published in the May 1 issue of the journal Nature.

``If we don’t experience warming over the next 10 years, it doesn’t mean that greenhouse-gas warming is not with us,’’ Keenlyside said in an interview. ``There can be natural fluctuations that may mask climate change in the short term.’’

CO2 Surge

Carbon dioxide, produced mainly from burning fossil fuels such as oil and natural gas, is the chief pollutant blamed for global warming. Since 1988, CO2 levels in the world’s skies have increased by 9.8 percent, according to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Scientists debate how much carbon can be pumped into the atmosphere before the effects of climate change, including droughts, floods and reduced fresh water supplies, become irreversible. For every 1 million molecules in the atmosphere, about 384 are carbon dioxide, according to NOAA.

Global temperatures can’t rise by more than 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 Fahrenheit) without risking the worst effects of climate change, according to the European Union. A scenario to stay below that limit suggests that CO2 levels must be stabilized between 350 and to 400 parts per million.

Long-term climate changes in the North Atlantic region affect ``hurricane activity in the Atlantic, and surface temperature and rainfall variations over North America, Europe and northern Africa,’’ according to the study.

`Cold Direction’

``Natural variations over the next 10 years might be heading in the cold direction,’’ Wood said. ``If you run the model long enough, eventually global warming will win.’’

The world will become at least 2.5 degrees Celsius warmer by 2100, compared with the pre-industrial period, Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said in March.

``We thought a lot about the way to present this because we don’t want it to be turned around in the wrong way,’’ Keenlyside said. ``I hope it doesn’t become a message of Exxon Mobil and other skeptics.’’

Exxon Mobil Corp. spokesman Gantt Walton said managers of U.S. oil company ``take the issue of climate change seriously and the risks warrant action,’’ in an interview today.

When “scientists” are trying to find ways to report research so its information only helps the target they are aiming for, it stops being science!

emilythegreat - Apr 23, 2008 11:09pm

Anything i say here is an opinion and only an opinion.  It can be changed or modified at any time as long as someone proves to me valid points with back up facts.

As for climate change...it happens.  It has always been happening (think about the thawing of the ice age) the climate will go on changing for a long time after i’m dead.  What i believe we should be focussing on is not trying to stop the climate changing but trying to prevent the earth from deteriorating. 
We do have a negative impact on the earth.  We cause greater erosion by ripping out plants and building in “beautiful places” like right beside the beach...where we stick our turf, tear out the trees and the grass that hold the sand in place.
We cause salinity (especially here in Australia) by tearing out the natural vegetation and over farming areas. 
We undermine whole huge areas of land causing instability and some of that land takes over 100 years to re-habilitate. 
We need to find environmentally stable ways of going about our lives
before we ruin the ground we walk on and in the process, the air we breathe, the water we drink and the food we eat.
Climate change is an issue, we’re helping it along a little bit faster than what is healthy (i beleive) but habitat destruction (namely our habitat) is probably a slightly more pressing issue.

very well said, and i completely agree with you.

I think one thing everyone can do everyday is become more conscious of the products you buy. Every time you purchase something you are sending a message to the business world what you support. Choose to support companies that are on our side. For example, buy organic products grown locally, buy from companies using renewable resources for production, choose products made of recycled materials, and recycle when you are done. Everything you do makes a difference.

_Trinity_ - Jun 12, 2008 06:35pm

I think one thing everyone can do everyday is become more conscious of the products you buy. Every time you purchase something you are sending a message to the business world what you support. Choose to support companies that are on our side. For example, buy organic products grown locally, buy from companies using renewable resources for production, choose products made of recycled materials, and recycle when you are done. Everything you do makes a difference.

I think anyone that wants to do those things you listed should absolutely do them.  If they are not already forced by their local Gov’t to recycle they should try recycling.  I do not think that anyone should do these things because they are going to affect/stop Global Warming/Climate Change.  At the very least, don’t force me to change to facilitate someone’s guess about the future environment.

I thought id add this article to the debate

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-cosub2sub-from-cars-427843.html

yes. we need to do something. with what we can do.
i wish i knew what to do or whose side to choose

oh and adrenaline i think you should still listen to his music i mean everyone has their own opinion and you have yours so i say buy the new cd

I agree with emilythegreat to a point, but surely any human impact on our climate directly affects our habitat, making a global form of habitat destruction of which we have very little knowledge of its consequences.

Localised habitat destruction is a huge problem, we have changed the face of the earth beyond recognition, and it is certainly about time this was addressed as a serious concern.

A lot of people do care about global warming and want to stop it, thats good but not good enough. We as a community need to take action, not just sit around and discuss about how global warming is so bad. We need to fix it! solve the climate crisis! do all one can do to help the future.

Crespidus - Jun 12, 2008 07:09pm

_Trinity_ - Jun 12, 2008 06:35pm

I think one thing everyone can do everyday is become more conscious of the products you buy. Every time you purchase something you are sending a message to the business world what you support. Choose to support companies that are on our side. For example, buy organic products grown locally, buy from companies using renewable resources for production, choose products made of recycled materials, and recycle when you are done. Everything you do makes a difference.

I think anyone that wants to do those things you listed should absolutely do them.  If they are not already forced by their local Gov’t to recycle they should try recycling.  I do not think that anyone should do these things because they are going to affect/stop Global Warming/Climate Change.  At the very least, don’t force me to change to facilitate someone’s guess about the future environment.

Oh, for heaven’s sake...Doesn’t it just feel like the right thing to do?  Again, there are countless obvious unneccesary things we do...ways we contribute to the life of “too much”; too much unneccessary junk made, we take (spend) too much, creating so much ugliness we must fix...to stop contaminating our world, to make it beautiful...everywhere...again...so people can look around, everywhere and respond with a smile...happiness...people taking less, simultaneously giving more. 

People are responding, yet not nearly quick enough for me.  If people are asleep and doing the “wrong” thing...making a bigger mess with “trash” and/or spending, who cares if the same people who are still asleep are now doing the “right” thing...making less of a mess, simultaneously, if only slightly, awakening; by responding; acknowledging that we’ve made a mess...a bit of responsibility.  With scientific facts to back it up or not, again, look around, there are ugly human tracks we should acknowledge and fix...the least someone can do is to recycle.  It seems you just can’t stand when people blindly follow something...and that I understand.

People are to lazy to start doing anything about it. I think that for one month every gas station should shut down so noone would have gas to drive. And people would have to start walking or riding bikes. Which in return might show people that its not that hard to start helping out on this. And relize that it really helps.

Hunter!!

Crespidus - Mar 12, 2008 04:54pm

The fact is I do not believe human influence has anything to do with the temperature changes in the environment.  “Pollution” is happening every single day, and would continue without humans.  Over 90% of the Earth’s Greenhouse Effect is due to water vapor and clouds.  The Earth’s atmosphere is constantly limiting greenhouse effect using precipitation systems, which remove water vapor and adjust cloud amount to keep the effect constant with available sunlight.  Our understanding of this process is immature, and it is not included in models.

IF EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CLIMATE SYSTEM REMAINED THE SAME, a doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration would cause little more than a 1 degree F of surface warming.  Mankinds addition of CO2 to the atmosphere is ONE molecule of CO2 for every 100,000 molecules of air every 5 years.

You my friend are very uninformed, Yes, the normal environment does cause some temperature changes, but if you think human activity has nothing to do with it you are sadly mistaken, where honestly do you think all the co2 goes, when it leaves our cars, plants ect.?? the proof is all around us, if people are to ignorant to see then we are doomed to fall. We HAVE to realize were doing something wrong, and make a major change, if we do not we will fall and everyone who said global warming was non threatening will have a hugh eye opener. Lets all hope it does not get that far, to have to prove it to all the non-believers that this is a real threat…

You my friend are very uninformed, Yes, the normal environment does cause some temperature changes, but if you think human activity has nothing to do with it you are sadly mistaken, where honestly do you think all the co2 goes, when it leaves our cars, plants ect.?? the proof is all around us, if people are to ignorant to see then we are doomed to fall. We HAVE to realize were doing something wrong, and make a major change, if we do not we will fall and everyone who said global warming was non threatening will have a hugh eye opener. Lets all hope it does not get that far, to have to prove it to all the non-believers that this is a real threat…

I am informed enough to see through all the overly self-important sheeple spewing these nonspecific, non-scientific guesses about the environment.
FYI...plants consume CO2, and produce O2, unless you smoke them.  I suggest you put as much time as possible into stopping GW, to stop us from falling.  I expect you will be the one with the eye-opener when you realize what a waste of time it was. 

There is no evidence ofhuman caused Global Warming!

Not that anyone cares, but I thought it would be appropriate timing to share that when I truly awakened to our “global footprint” it wasn’t with “global warming” talk, rather, when the latest war began...shortly after 9/11/01.  One night I felt; “understood” the bombs hitting and not just attacking (in the name of defending) potentially innocent people (who ever that really is...children), but our planet.  I saw it, and felt it.  I understood it...we’re the true monsters...I immediately felt awful.  To lightly name it; label it; understand it, I repented...it was a “spiritual” moment.  Though I’m a natural skeptic, from that moment on I started to look even more closely at how us humans did things/said things… Already recycling, (just because, it was available so why not?  Seemed only logical.), my first worldly big change was to buy only organic food and consuming less “stuff” by also asking others to stop all the “gift-giving”...and that’s another whole segment on the not so worldly side!  It all just happened, through understanding things I seen and then felt...two sides becoming one at peace.

Though vital to what I feel is our evitable success, at some point, science is just another name for experience; it’s us capturing; naming; it is just our need for understanding...it’s what we are, what we do...and in it’s traditional meaning, it’s about understanding nature...part of our origin...no matter what you believe (and even “don’t believe") “spiritually”.  It’s the most worldly relationship we have to look at for answers; reflections in how we’re doing.  And again, even if the scientific data has another side (big surprise there) to the climate change facts and/or theories that would make us feel ok with continuing our current way of life, I for one would much rather lay down and die!  This world sucks in many ways...not just in the easy to see; perceive physical ways, but in the “unseen” ways that are easily felt; perceivable touch inside...within.  The things we’ve done as we’ve tried to play the bigger role than what man was intended for.  I’ve said these similar things before, to me there are endless ugly metaphors for what man has stood for: smoke-stacks are not beautiful, “stars” projected on red-carpet are not beautiful, gossip magazines are not beautiful, scary sized super stores are not beautiful, even the “clean energy” wind farms are not beautiful, I could go on and on...It all just reflects how hungry we are.  We are the true monster that can put on a helpful face sometime just for a helpful name...to be humanly glorified.  And we are also the true vessel for something real, something new...because sometimes we really mean what we do.  You want to continue to glorify your “sheeple”, uphold this lovely way of living?  Why?  What do you see?  I see something so much more beautiful...I wish you could too.  I’ve attained a piece of the “American Dream” and then I thought, there must be more than this.  Then, look to Jack...he’s attained another piece of an American Dream...and hear what he says.